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Looking Ahead to Saturn in Scorpio

Even though Saturn will not enter Scorpio until October 2012, it won’t hurt to speculate on what that will mean, especially for those of us with a strong showing of Scorpio in our natal charts.

The subject came up because Jeffrey Kishner of Sasstrology asked if he could re-post a piece I wrote on Saturn’s Version of True Love, inspired by Saturn in Libra. One of his readers asked for thoughts on what will happen when Saturn moves into Scorpio, and of course, my astrologer’s brain immediately kicked into gear. Occupational hazard . . .

It doesn’t hurt to reflect on the last time Saturn was in Scorpio in 1983 to 1985~. As I recall, AIDS and other nasty STDs were emerging as something everyone who was sexually active had to learn to deal with in a constructive way. Learning how to have an uncomfortable conversation with a potential lover about safe sex was becoming critical. Are we going to get a refresher course in this area?

Scorpio is not an unfriendly place for Saturn, unlike Leo where Saturn is in his detriment, but Scorpio does fearlessly walk into some sensitive areas for many, especially if a person was brought up in a very conventional religious household. Sex and death are not usually topics discussed at the dinner table in those places unless you have a loved one who is HIV positive.

One of Scorpio’s greatest virtues is the willingness to confront the reality we are ALL going to die at some point and it is important to have our financial affairs in order before we do so – all related to the eighth house, Scorpio’s home base. By the time Saturn enters Scorpio in 2012, there will be a significant number of Boomers with Pluto in Leo facing their own mortality and as Saturn in Scorpio begins to square their natal Pluto’s, this fact will be driven home in no uncertain terms. I predict it will not be pretty . . . for anyone.

My all time favorite book on Saturn is Liz Greene’s “Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil”. I keep going back to this one time and again as she does an excellent job of covering Saturn in the natal chart in aspect to other planets as well as in synastry. Liz Greene is simply a damn good astrologer and writer.

I’m sure there will be many more posts on Saturn in Scorpio forthcoming both here and on many other astrology blogs. First we need to tend to our one on one relationships while Saturn is in equitable Libra . . . no free passes there either. *grin*

Image: © Liz Greene. I love her version of Saturn for Saturn in Scorpio.

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29 comments to Looking Ahead to Saturn in Scorpio

  • Liz

    haha of course you are looking forward to Saturn in Scorpio…you are also looking forward to the bugger leaving YOUR sign…but i have sun,venus,and jupiter in Scorpio! and mercury,saturn and pluto in Libra ..so i am soooo over Saturn going back and forth over 90% of my planets at once ! :D

    • Diane L

      Hi Liz!
      haha of course you are looking forward to Saturn in Scorpio…you are also looking forward to the bugger leaving YOUR sign…but i have sun,venus,and jupiter in Scorpio! and mercury,saturn and pluto in Libra ..so i am soooo over Saturn going back and forth over 90% of my planets at once ! :D

      Heh, Saturn will be conjoining my natal planets from now until October 2015 when he finally conjuncts my Venus in Sagittarius for the last pass. Right now Saturn in Libra is exactly conjunct my Moon. :P And the REALLY weird thing is I feeling pretty good about life.

      I have what is called a Bowl Pattern where all my planets are within about 180 degrees (Uranus is the Leading Planet). And all my personal planets are from 15 degrees Libra to 2 degrees Sagittarius. :D

      xo diane~

      • Leslee

        Saturn felt great on my Moon, maybe because it calmed down my Moon-Uranus conjunction, plus it was trine my natal Saturn as well.

  • This is a great book.

    I’m with Liz, though… my brain can’t even see to Saturn in Scorpio yet; I’m too busy bracing for every last planet in my chart to get a Saturn transit while it’s still in Libra! I will now be outsourcing my long-range Saturn brain cells to you. :D

    And yes, this is a dinner-table realm for me. Seen it! ;)

    • Diane L

      Hey Shannon – Liz Greene is one of my favorites though not as easy to read as Donna Cunningham or Stephen Arroyo.

      If that reader on Sasstrology hadn’t asked about it, I would still be ignoring Saturn in Scorpio. However once it registered with me, I just had to write something. *grin*

      And yes, this is a dinner-table realm for me. Seen it! ;)
      Same here! :D

      xo diane~

  • Joe

    How’d you get the snowflakes to fall in your header image?

  • Deb

    Diane, you have virtual snowflakes on your website.

    :) I’m glad you’ve brought up Saturn in Scorpio. It’s early, but someone’s got to be the first to talk about it. With time moving as quickly as it is, we’ll be in 2012 before we know it.

    Wear your condoms, everyone. And save some for later.

    • Diane L

      Hey Deb!
      Diane, you have virtual snowflakes on your website.

      Silly but fun. :)

      I’m glad you’ve brought up Saturn in Scorpio. It’s early, but someone’s got to be the first to talk about it. With time moving as quickly as it is, we’ll be in 2012 before we know it.

      thanks! Because Saturn is exalted in Libra, he is relatively easy to negotiate with. Scorpio is a whole ‘nother story, fixed sign and all that plus as I hinted at in my post, Saturn in Scorpio is willing to force us to deal with sex, death and money – uncomfortable for many. Both the person who only has sex for procreation & the one who f***s anything that moves are avoiding intimacy.

      More to come! :P

      xo diane~

  • Regina

    I think I may be the only one liking Saturn in Libra right now. He’s in my 4th house and trining my Moon/Sun/Venus stellium in Aquarius. I like him there and he can stay. LOL Because when he moves into Scorpio, he’s going to wipe his feet on (i.e. conjunct) my Jupiter as he steps across the threshold into my 5th house. And then he’ll square that Aquarius stellium. And I am not looking forward to that!

    • Diane L

      Hi Regina!

      I think I may be the only one liking Saturn in Libra right now. He’s in my 4th house and trining my Moon/Sun/Venus stellium in Aquarius. I like him there and he can stay. LOL

      Now that Saturn is well into Libra, I’m liking him OK. :) A Saturn trine like you mention really is the best – offers stability, dependability and helps set boundaries without going overboard.

      I too have Jupiter in Scorpio (as do several others who comment here). Saturn conjoining my Jup will be an instance of a transit mirror because I have a natal Saturn-Jupiter square.

      diane~

  • susan

    :) i am the reader u mentioned from sasstrology :) so nice to know i have inspired u! and being that i am a scorpio (mercury/neptune there as well) and i am going thru difficult saturn transits (saturn conjunct moon, saturn conjunct descendant) i am elated you took on this topic, as I wanted to somehow prepare.

    Thankfully I am the last of the baby boomers, so I miss that Pluto in Leo transit u mention, (born nov 1 1964, so that’s Pluto/Virgo) but I’m sure that may not be a walk in the park either lol
    Thank you for always writing beautiful words! x

    • Diane L

      Hi susan! :)

      and being that i am a scorpio (mercury/neptune there as well) and i am going thru difficult saturn transits (saturn conjunct moon, saturn conjunct descendant) i am elated you took on this topic, as I wanted to somehow prepare.

      Scorps are pretty good at acknowledging the hard stuff and slogging through the “mud”. :P Which is more difficult for you? The Saturn-Moon transit or Saturn-DES? This is the second time you have lived through this transit so maybe reflecting on how far you have come in the last 27+ yrs will help.

      Thank you for always writing beautiful words! x
      You are very welcome!! :D

      xo diane~

  • Leslee

    When Saturn enters Scorpio in late 2011, I think it will be trine transiting Neptune. Maybe provide some of that nice creativity of the combination you were just talking about. Saturn will conjoin my natal Jupiter and Neptune when it first enters Scorpio, giving nice sextiles to my natal Mercury, Venus and Pluto. So I’m good with all of that. Again, should offset Neptune opposing my Merc & Venus/Pluto.

    • Diane L

      Hey leslee,

      When Saturn enters Scorpio in late 2011, I think it will be trine transiting Neptune. Maybe provide some of that nice creativity of the combination you were just talking about.

      It does indeed, and I agree about that being very favorable for getting serious productive creative results. Looks very good for you in particular! Nice to have a bright spot in the road ahead, isn’t it? **grin**

      xo diane~

  • When I think of Saturn in Scorpio, I am reminded that I will be having my second Saturn opp Saturn, which will mean that I will be middle-aged, which reminds me of Saturn, which makes me want to go “La La La I Can’t Hear You” and put my fingers in my ears.

    • Diane L

      Hey Jeff!

      Thanks for stopping by! :P

      When I think of Saturn in Scorpio, I am reminded that I will be having my second Saturn opp Saturn, which will mean that I will be middle-aged, which reminds me of Saturn, which makes me want to go “La La La I Can’t Hear You” and put my fingers in my ears.

      LOL! :D You have reached the “How the HELL did I get here?” point in your life. I won’t mention things like Uranus opp Uranus, Neptune sq Neptune either . . . **grin**

      xo diane~

  • chrispito

    i’ve actually been thinking about this a lot. and couldn’t believe it is as far away as it is. personally i am looking forward to it.

    i’m surprisingly grateful i’m having difficult pluto/saturn transits to my moon at the same time (get it over with, LOL).

    i think scorpio and capricorn are a good match. i was reading that liz greene book the other day (saturn in libra conj. pluto at the moment). she wrote about saturn acting like a gatekeeper to pluto’s realm in that particular section of the book. i think it’s true.

    maybe the fact saturn hits everything in my chart already; i like being put to work.

    • Diane L

      Hey Chrispito!! :)

      i’m surprisingly grateful i’m having difficult pluto/saturn transits to my moon at the same time (get it over with, LOL).

      heh, probably the best way to look at it! Pluto-Moon can be intense experiences but you are already well acquainted with Pluto’s affect on the Moon.
      i think scorpio and capricorn are a good match. i was reading that liz greene book the other day (saturn in libra conj. pluto at the moment). she wrote about saturn acting like a gatekeeper to pluto’s realm in that particular section of the book. i think it’s true.

      Yes, Scorpio & Capricorn do get along very well and Liz Greene has wonderful insights into Saturn and Pluto. She has the Saturn-Pluto conj in Leo – Liz Greene natal chart

      maybe the fact saturn hits everything in my chart already; i like being put to work.

      me too . . . :D

      xo diane~

  • Charley

    ALL my natal planets are in Libra (venus, jupiter, saturn, pluto), Scorpio (sun, uranus) and Sagittarius (moon, mars, neptune), Saturn is on my back for a long time coming. Right now conjuncting Venus which is actually no bad thing surprisingly but I’m tired just thinking about all these lessons!!

  • Diane L

    Welcome Charley!

    ALL my natal planets are in Libra (venus, jupiter, saturn, pluto), Scorpio (sun, uranus) and Sagittarius (moon, mars, neptune), Saturn is on my back for a long time coming. Right now conjuncting Venus which is actually no bad thing surprisingly but I’m tired just thinking about all these lessons!!

    Me too . . . I plan on keeping my focus right in front of my nose until it’s all over. **grin** The one thing Saturn is very good at is teaching us how to tackle our challenges one small step at a time. An overactive imagination can be a curse sometimes . . . :P

    diane~

  • susan

    u had asked what transit i found more difficult, how can i differentiate between them? (at this point it’s all crap lol)

  • susan

    i just saw your note, it’s 11/1/64 3:40pm bklyn ny :)

  • Pluto in Scorpio

    I’m one of the one’s with Pluto in Scorpio and was trying to find out about what this transit would be all about.

    As Saturn makes the switch from Libra to Scorpio, it will square my Venus and Moon, which I haven’t felt not since it’s entrance into Taurus in 98′-99′ and the conjunction at around 2005 when it moved into Leo..

    • Diane L

      I’m one of the one’s with Pluto in Scorpio and was trying to find out about what this transit would be all about.

      As Saturn makes the switch from Libra to Scorpio, it will square my Venus and Moon, which I haven’t felt not since it’s entrance into Taurus in 98?-99? and the conjunction at around 2005 when it moved into Leo..

      Hi! Don’t blame you for looking at Saturn squaring your Venus & Moon with concern. Does your Pluto in Scorp square either or both natally? If so, I highly recommend reading Donna Cunningham’s book, Healing Pluto Problems. There’s a link to Amazon.com in my left sidebar you can use to learn more about it.

      Also want you to know your comment prodded me to write a post on Saturn in Scorpio & Pluto. Saturn & Pluto Interactions by Transit

  • s. heywood

    Why are there no astrologers discussing the fact that 2012 is rapidly approaching, as the Earth has also been predicted to shift on her axis, while the newly discovered planet Nibiru is supposed to be swinging into our orb for the first time in 3600 years- causing a lot of wind and magnetic pull on our planet and our neighboring planets too, Sun storms have also been predicted. That makes sense with all the wind that will be blowing out there in the heavens. What I find to be fascinating is that not only will Pluto be in the domain of Capricorn/Saturn, but it does a “crisscross” with Saturn, which will in Scorpio/Pluto’s domain beginning on Oct 5, 2012. It’s because of this astrological and astronomical event that I am finally convinced that something big is really coming. We’re on the cusp of that now, and since it’s such a large planet, I’ll assume that we’ve been seeing changes in our environment for a while because of this cusp, but didn’t collectively know it. It’s as if, like clock work, these 2 planets are opening up for the swing by of Niribu like giant gate keepers in a cosmic dance for the first time in 3600 years. I wonder how many times civilization has gone through this before? Absolutely amazing. The dots are being connected.
    – S.H.S.