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Observations: Aftereffects of Pluto in Sagittarius

I got into a discussion with astrologer CJ Wright of Auntie Moon on facebook about the latest information emerging regarding the growing group of people who do not identify with an organized religious group of some kind. She had linked this article:  Study finds that the number of protestant Americans is declining. And I had just read the results of a poll on Gallup indicating more people in the USA now say the government should not favor a particular set of values. We were conjecturing whether or not these changes were a result of Pluto’s stay in Sagittarius. I’m inclined to believe they are.

There was a great deal in the news during those years reflecting badly on various religious groups such as Catholic Church and their problems with priests abusing the vulnerable. Now Pluto is in Capricorn and focusing attention on various corporate and government hierarchies, we can begin to assess what Pluto wrought in Sagittarius. Pluto works in subtle, far reaching ways bringing about changes that take time to appear and become part of our daily experience.

When Pluto was in Sagittarius, it did not have Uranus squaring it as Pluto in Capricorn does now. That may be why we may see an acceleration of the changes Pluto in Cappy will bring. Uranus and Pluto in cardinal signs supports this because cardinal demands action rather than the endless discussions of mutable Sagittarius. Sagittarius does love an unending philosophical discussion. *grin*

CJ also felt Neptune in Pisces may be part of the emergence of the evidence of changes in the collective. I agree and wish to add Saturn in Scorpio trine Neptune is adding some weight. The damage done by Jerry Sandusky during the Pluto in Sadge years when sport was almost a religion has been rewarded this week by a sentence of 30 to 60 years in prison. Virtually a death sentence for the 68 year old Sandusky has his Aquarius Sun opposing Pluto in Leo. Lynn Hayes wrote an excellent post on The Astrology of the Penn State Scandal.

It’s always fun to indulge in astrological speculation of this nature . . . anyone else have some observations on the repercussions of Pluto in Sagittarius to add?

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11 comments to Observations: Aftereffects of Pluto in Sagittarius

  • Joe

    I was raised Catholic, but that eroded because I can think for myself and need no priest or pope to intercede for me. I’ve vacillated from exploring neo-paganism to Celtic Christianity including a stay at the United Church of Christ (I’ve no problem with Christ, only his followers). But events during Pluto in Sag, personal and collectively, destroyed my desire to be part of any religious organization. I don’t yet see any sign of resurrection in that direction, but I feel a void there waiting to be filled.

    I never was interested in sports (beyond noticing some player-eye candy being profiled on TV!) as entertainment or religion, but am endlessly disgusted by how riveted certain family members are to football. Last Thanksgiving, the damn TV was on during dinner because that side of my family is incredibly fanatical about sports. They rattle off statistics like Scripture. I just don’t get it.

    • Diane L

      Hey Joe!

      I don’t yet see any sign of resurrection in that direction, but I feel a void there waiting to be filled.

      Understandable . . . we humans seem to do better when we have the feeling of connection with something larger than ourselves. Pluto in Sadge crossing my SNode in Sadge affirmed my belief the importance of continuing to practice first loving myself, then my neighbors as myself. That’s enough for one lifetime right there. :D

      Professional sports completely eludes both me & my husband but, like you, other family members love ‘em. *shakes head*

      xoxoxo diane~

      how is your recovery going? Good?!

      • Joe

        It’s going OK… slow going. It’s not expected to be as dramatic as the first time due to the length of time the ear was dormant, but I am barely beginning to make out predictable speech (colors, an agreed-upon sentence), which right now sounds like Darth Vader crossed with a voice synthesizer.

        • Diane L

          It’s going OK… slow going.

          Understandable what with Saturn moving into your 6th house now. You might get a breakthrough when Mars in Sagittarius conjoins your Mercury in about a week. However, I still believe your progress will be slow but steady. Gonna be confusing in your head for some time to come! :D

          Good wishes for an excellent recovery!

          xoxoxoxo diane~

  • Pixie

    Pluto in Saggi began the serious exploration of faith for me, and started the separation from feeling like I had to be like those around me. I was tired of Catholic hypocrites, as my husband at the time was Catholic and shagging anything with a pulse. This was after a lifetime of really negative Catholic feedback, so I have little time for church goers, accept my now passed Nan. My parents are athiests, my aunts wiccans and my great grandmother was a staunch protestant. I started up the wiccan path, quite simply because it accepts the invisible world, which is a very strong part of my world, and the faith works with nature. But a lot of the wicca ways I don’t agree with either, so I have been very happy with my own skewed version of devotion. No way am I getting skyclad in my backyard. Imagine the neighbours, jeez! Turn them off their dinner, absolutely. If anything, Pluto in Cap has settled my exploration and I enjoy working with all that I know, without any restlessness. My now husband is a devoted Catholic and a more beautiful person in faith you will rarely see. He walks the talk and is very accepting of my ways, only becoming bored if I started talking aspects lol I worry about the fear that is entwined with religion. Pluto in Saggi opened the fanaticism can, and now the fear is exposed, but what happens next is anyone’s guess really. Some religions are far more tolerant of other faiths than others. Sexism too, is also entwined in all of this, so there is much work to be done!

    • Diane L

      Hey Pixie!! :D

      I worry about the fear that is entwined with religion. Pluto in Saggi opened the fanaticism can, and now the fear is exposed, but what happens next is anyone’s guess really.

      I am of the philosophy that says the first step in healing is recognizing a problem exists. Also realize it probably take far more time than we like to see the kinds of profound changes needed to successfully eliminate some of the worst abuses. Humans are so damned fallible! LOL

      xoxoxo diane~

  • That was a great discussion, Diane, and it’s been on my mind since we had it. I remember a boss of mine telling me once that the most “Christian-like” person he ever knew was a classmate in college who never went to a church service in his life and was basically an athiest. Good is good, no matter what the religion is. Same goes for bad is bad. We saw a lot of ugly stuff exposed during the Pluto/Sadge phase ~ the sexual abuse in the church and the coverups that went with it. Religious orgs are like any other corporation. They’ll do anything they can to retain their power and reputation. It will be interesting to see if other sports-related abuse stories pop up in the news. I mean, we know Sandusky wasn’t the only one.

    • Diane L

      Hey cj! :D

      Good is good, no matter what the religion is. Same goes for bad is bad.

      An often overlooked fact! We have these cultural expectations a “good Christian” person will behave better than someone with no religious affiliation. Sure hasn’t been my experience either. I’m with you on doing anything to retain their power & reputation too.

      It will be interesting to see if other sports-related abuse stories pop up in the news. I mean, we know Sandusky wasn’t the only one.

      Probably far from it. There is that whole “boys will be boys” thing with sports. Idolization of sports stars is wide spread too . . . just different sports in different parts of the world. And the HUGE amounts of money involved. whew

      Pluto works so darn slowly it can be years later a realization pops into view that we can connect back to a specific transit. I have this theory as Pluto moves through each sign it is gradually completing lessons begun in the previous one. I’m conjecturing it will take Pluto moving into Aquarius to finally see widespread acceptance of gay marriage. Something that really started in the late phases of Pluto in Sadge. Here in WA state it’s looking very likely voters will approve a measure making it legal. :D

      xoxo diane~

      • They sure won’t approve gay marriage here in Honey Boo Boo land. Like gay marriage has any effect on anyone else, at all. Puh-lease!

        Sports are just crazy. Here in Hooterville where I live, they’ve recently spent a million on a new ballfield and locker room for football. Good lord a’mighty! What if they spent a million on their math or science departments instead? Imagine the kind of community that would build. I’d much rather have a bunch of young geniuses around here than what we’ve got now. The dropout rate is something like 40%, but the team has a nice locker room.

        Pluto’s an iceberg. We have no idea what’s below the surface that will sink our personal Titanic.

  • Pixie

    Ewww how awful. I had to research Sandusky, just terrible!

  • Good post. So useful to have a mull about what Pluto leaves behind.

    The thing I really associate with Pluto in Sadge is the rise of militant Islam.