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Observations: Pluto + Neptune – Double Trouble or Creative Genius?

As usual, I’m just now waking up to a transit to my natal Neptune . . . after Pluto spent February, March, April and most of May exactly square to it. It’s like I when I look at my chart and check the transits, my eyes skip over Neptune! Natally Neptune influences my chart through a rather wide conjunction to the sensitive Moon in addition to a Saturn-Pluto conjunction sextile my Moon.

When I checked this transit on Astrodienst (who use Robert Hand’s interpretations), it was sort of helpful. I did agree with this statement:

During this time you will have to cope with powerful outside forces that seem to take no regard of your individual ego. Your individuality will not be challenged so much as ignored, unless you stand in the way of these forces, in which case you may have some extremely discouraging experiences.”

And this:

Another side of this influence is that hidden aspects of your unconscious mind may flare up and begin to influence your life now. Elements of your personality that you prefer to keep hidden from others may become so evident that you can no longer avoid them.

The only solution, therefore, is to deal with them. They are probably not as bad as you think anyway. It is not their intrinsic nature but repression that makes them seem bad. Now you must throw away the past conditioning that makes you reject these perfectly valid aspects of yourself.”

The first part about the individual ego being ignored is certainly part of any Pluto transit and the more we pit our puny human selves against Pluto’s forces, the deeper the hole we must eventually dig out of. I know I’ve said this before and will probably do so again but acceptance of who we are, warts and all, is the key to survival. If we were perfect we wouldn’t be here . . . right?

It’s the vagueness of Neptune I have the greatest difficulty with and because of the connection to the Moon, it’s often emotional junk surfacing. You know the kind of junk that wakes one in the night and involves running worst case scenarios through your head? Hate that stuff! However, Pluto is pretty insistent this kind of thing get processed.

In the process of mulling over Pluto’s effect on Neptune, I also realized how Pluto can take one of Neptune’s day dreams and make them seem real. If you are an artist, obsessing about your next work, the ability to imagine your completed project in great detail is a real bonus. However if one is obsessing about a romantic relationship to the point it feels like the real deal (and you barely know the person) then it’s not so good. Best take a step back, take a reality check and do what you can to divert your attention as I discussed in an earlier post – Living with Pluto & Obsessions.

If you have natal aspects involving Pluto and/or Neptune to your personal planets of any kind, you may wish to monitor your current crop of obsessions for appropriateness. I use this energy both for creative projects and when I’m working with a client’s chart. During the time I’m writing their report, it can feel like I’m having a real conversation with them even though it’s all in my head.

Do you have Neptune and Pluto aspects to personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus or Mars) and how do you feel they affect your life? If you have either Neptune or Pluto aspecting your personal planets AND have one or the other of these outer planets hitting your chart by transit, it will create a similar situation.

By the way, Pluto is back conjoining my progressed Mars ONE MORE TIME! Can’t seem to escape him these days . . . :D


Observations: Pluto Thoughts for the Day

© Stephanie Pui-Mun Law

With a delicious Full Moon in Scorpio tomorrow, I got to thinking about Pluto, Scorpio’s ruler, and how we end up manifesting some of his delightful issues in our natal charts.

One of the common themes for most of us with strong Pluto natal signatures is control, of others, ourselves, our environments, etc. When I meet people with what is politely called “control issues” these days, I immediately wonder what Pluto is doing in their natal charts. Often he is conjunct the Ascendant or in hard aspect to the Luminaries. Everyone has Pluto somewhere but he has to prominent to be noticeable. It takes an aspect to the personal planets or Angles to force us to deal with Pluto because as a transpersonal planet he is very “other” and difficult to relate to.

I suppose having sextiles and trines does dilute Pluto’s stamp on us to a degree. The reason I say this is because I have a Moon-Pluto sextile and still notice the need to be in control of my emotions. It takes careful monitoring of my feelings to recognize when I’m shoving them down rather than dealing with them. (Neptune conjunct my Moon is NO help at all . . .)

Both of my step-daughters have Pluto in Libra, one has Pluto in her first house trine her Mercury and the other has Pluto conjunct the Ascendant square her Cappy Moon. It is very clear who is in charge in their marriages, particularly in the second case. She chose a very nice man who pretty much lets her run the whole show. You would not believe what his mother is like (she has yet to acknowledge her daughter-in-law’s existence . . . seriously!) The other day both families were visiting and when they left, both women were driving which about says it all.

It has occurred to me what happened when the girls were living with their bi-polar mother during their teen years brought out the need for control as adults. We are only now finding out how rough it was for them and how many responsibilities they assumed. At the time the grandparents flat refused to acknowledge their daughter had mental health problems. It was a sad, desperate time for the girls and I’m amazed how well they are doing now. So many secrets (Pluto) keep from their father and I, preventing us from helping out.

By the way, their dad has a Moon-Pluto trine and a Mars-Pluto square. The man definitely is one of the control issue group but he tends to be harder on himself than others. Their mom doesn’t have any major Pluto aspects although I suspect she has a Moon-Neptune square.

By the way, attempting to restrict or control uncertainties in our lives is very human and nothing to be ashamed of . . . one more reason to be kind and forgiving of our selves. Anyone else relate to this?


Cancer Full Moon Lunar Eclipse, December 31, 2009

The Full Moon on December 31, 2009, is momentous. At 10° 14′ Cancer, it’s the first of two eclipses in the Cancer-Capricorn series that began last July. It’s also the second Full Moon this month, making it a rare “blue moon.”

The T-square formed by the Moon in Cancer opposite the Sun, Venus, and Pluto in Capricorn, all square Saturn in Libra, speaks to me of the need for civility. Coincidentally, our local newspaper had a very good editorial on Christmas Day on sharing the gift of civility. It is important to note that as long as Saturn is in Libra, we will be returning again and again to this theme, particularly during periods when Capricorn is heavily represented in the sky, as it is now.

Libra and Capricorn may not agree on everything, but they both favor good manners and treating others with respect. Keep in mind that we don’t have to like someone in order to deal with them politely and respectfully. Skilled mediators and negotiators, both occupations ruled by Libra, know the value of good manners in creating a neutral atmosphere. It is much easier to shift from neutral to favorable than from hostile to favorable.

Saturn in Libra squaring the Moon in Cancer is far more likely to squelch emotional displays than promote them. In fact, with the majority of the planets in earth and air, the emphasis is on the practical and rational, for a change. Those who do have public meltdowns may be surprised at how little sympathy they will receive. Earth signs in general and Capricorns in particular tend to regard over-the-top behavior, especially publically, as self-indulgent . . . another sign the party is over for the year!

The retrograde pair, Mercury in Capricorn and Mars in Leo, is closely inconjunct at this time. Inconjunct signs are 150° apart and usually have little common ground, making meaningful dialogue between them difficult, to say the least. Fiery Leo, who loves nothing better than being the center of attention, is viewed by cautious, disciplined Capricorn with deep reservations. The retrograde factor means we need to double-check our facts, have all our papers in order, and be prepared for delays times two. If there ever was a time when pushing for a fast resolution is bound to backfire, this is it.

Jupiter is pulling away from Neptune and Chiron in Aquarius, and I’m feeling the sensation of a balloon slowly deflating, gradually sinking back to earth. For once the Aquarius stellium is not the headline, only making a semi-sextile to Uranus in Pisces with no strong aspects to the inner planets. Perhaps this is contributing to an overall feeling of a deep shift in the collective. At this point, it is not obvious exactly what this entails, just that it is happening.

For the Moon, the Sabian symbol of 11 Cancer is, “a clown caricaturing well-known personalities.” Learning to laugh first at our own absurdities and then recognizing that all people have their own leads to the understanding that despite traditions, no one person really is better than another.

“Pheasants display their brilliant colors on a private estate” is the Sabian symbol for the Sun at 11 Capricorn. To quote Robert Green Ingersoll: Few rich men own their own property. The property owns them. There is beauty to be found everywhere if we have the eyes to see it, not just tucked away for a privileged few.

I wish to urge everyone to start practicing treating others with respect, paying attention, speaking kindly, remembering to say “please and thank you,” listening carefully, and keeping your cool. The more of us who do this, the further the ripples will spread. It certainly can’t hurt!

Libra always seeks balanceposted by Neith . . .

Image: The stillness of the water in the protected pond is a sharp contrast to the rough waters behind it. May our homes be a safe haven from the turmoil of the outer world in just this way.


Saturday Archives: Sex, Lies and Biology from a Scorpio Perspective

Scorpio It must be the t-square with Pluto in Capricorn, Mars in Cancer and Mercury in Libra that drew me to this particular article from my Archives. Enjoy!

To be blunt – we’ve been had. Humanity as a whole is born hard-wired to reproduce and once we hit puberty, we’re at the mercy of changes in blood and brain chemistry unless we learn to pay attention to what the heck is going on. And you better believe that this has not escaped the notice of the Powers That Be all through out history.

One way or another, often in the guise of religious rules and regulations or greedy folk making a buck off sex through the sale of pornography and/or prostitution, humanity in general has a history of being lead by their gonads. Not pretty, people, not pretty!

With my Mars-Mercury in Scorpio plus a strong Pluto influence in my chart, I have observed how this has played out all my life. That being said, it wasn’t until I was close to forty that I started putting some of the pieces together and it was the advent of the crone phase in my life when the picture became even clearer. Some of the research done in this area really opened my eyes. For instance, studies have found there are biological aspects to what draws us to certain people. Here is a link to an article “The Biology of Attraction” from the Psychology Today website.

Many cultures, especially those with strong religious views, encourage early marriages with an eye to controlling through the distraction of sex. We’ve had a big dose of abstinence promoted in this country the last several years for instance. What better way to muddle the thinking of young, healthy people in this sex drenched culture. What’s the best way to make someone focus on something? Deny them access to it!

There are two periods in a woman’s life when the drive to reproduce is almost overwhelming – the first 5-10 years after menarche and the last 5 years before perimenopause. If we are allowed to acknowledge this driving force represented by Pluto and the eighth House, then we can gain some perspective and objectivity – tactics familiar to anyone who is working with Pluto. Men reading this can draw on their own experiences when it comes to the drive to procreate.

There is another facet to this puzzle that’s tied into brain chemistry. Dr. Helen Fisher has a quote that I really feel is true: “Don’t copulate with people you don’t want to fall in love with because indeed you may do just that.” This is the other side of how we are hard-wired to stay together long enough to reproduce. Read this article from McMan’s Depression and Bipolar Website on “The Brain in Love and Lust” and draw your own conclusions.

For those of us with the Plutonian signatures in our charts – lots of Scorpio, loaded 8th House and natal aspects involving personal planets and Pluto – paying attention to this kind of information can save us a lot of heartache because we tend to take the bonds we form with other humans very seriously. We just don’t do casual very well and I see this as a good thing. I have another post in the back of my mind about the pitfalls of so-called “casual” sex but that’s for another day.

Libra with Scorpioposted by Neith . . .


Happy Solstice!

The summer solstice is here once more and long light evenings are the rule here in the northern latitudes. Saturn has moved off my Venus and right now the Sun is trine my Sun – always good for a lift in mood.

It is worth noting Pluto is back in Sagittarius within a degree of where he was on the winter solstice and my guess is this is an indicator we’ll be given a chance to review our changes once more. However today we pause in a place of transition and it feels a little like the universe is holding it’s breath.

Pat and I started Real Astrologers.com on the Vernal Equinox, the halfway point between the two solstices and today we will finally surpass the numbers of weekly hits on our website of that first week. This is pretty darn good milestone to be crossing. The last Pat checked we were up to 45 states and 69 countries worldwide. We’ve both worked very hard on this project and it is very satisfying to see how many people are coming by to visit! I have a post on the astrology of the solstice up on Real Astrologers.

Saturn has returned to the degree it was on the Vernal Equinox and is now marching towards my Midheaven. Mars will reach there in late July and I will probably be one busy lady from early July on. But right now I’m just grateful Saturn has lifted his weight off and Mercury is direct. By the way, if you have Mercury related matters to take care of, next week will not be too bad though the little biter will not be back up to speed until July 4. My list is waiting for me . . .

Please take a moment to recognize this particular transition point and simply breathe . . .


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A splash of red-orange poppies in full bloom to celebrate the summer solstice. Poppies are a symbols of remembrance, sleep and death . . . a Plutonian flower?!