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Observations: Pluto + Neptune – Double Trouble or Creative Genius?

As usual, I’m just now waking up to a transit to my natal Neptune . . . after Pluto spent February, March, April and most of May exactly square to it. It’s like I when I look at my chart and check the transits, my eyes skip over Neptune! Natally Neptune influences my chart through a rather wide conjunction to the sensitive Moon in addition to a Saturn-Pluto conjunction sextile my Moon.

When I checked this transit on Astrodienst (who use Robert Hand’s interpretations), it was sort of helpful. I did agree with this statement:

During this time you will have to cope with powerful outside forces that seem to take no regard of your individual ego. Your individuality will not be challenged so much as ignored, unless you stand in the way of these forces, in which case you may have some extremely discouraging experiences.”

And this:

Another side of this influence is that hidden aspects of your unconscious mind may flare up and begin to influence your life now. Elements of your personality that you prefer to keep hidden from others may become so evident that you can no longer avoid them.

The only solution, therefore, is to deal with them. They are probably not as bad as you think anyway. It is not their intrinsic nature but repression that makes them seem bad. Now you must throw away the past conditioning that makes you reject these perfectly valid aspects of yourself.”

The first part about the individual ego being ignored is certainly part of any Pluto transit and the more we pit our puny human selves against Pluto’s forces, the deeper the hole we must eventually dig out of. I know I’ve said this before and will probably do so again but acceptance of who we are, warts and all, is the key to survival. If we were perfect we wouldn’t be here . . . right?

It’s the vagueness of Neptune I have the greatest difficulty with and because of the connection to the Moon, it’s often emotional junk surfacing. You know the kind of junk that wakes one in the night and involves running worst case scenarios through your head? Hate that stuff! However, Pluto is pretty insistent this kind of thing get processed.

In the process of mulling over Pluto’s effect on Neptune, I also realized how Pluto can take one of Neptune’s day dreams and make them seem real. If you are an artist, obsessing about your next work, the ability to imagine your completed project in great detail is a real bonus. However if one is obsessing about a romantic relationship to the point it feels like the real deal (and you barely know the person) then it’s not so good. Best take a step back, take a reality check and do what you can to divert your attention as I discussed in an earlier post – Living with Pluto & Obsessions.

If you have natal aspects involving Pluto and/or Neptune to your personal planets of any kind, you may wish to monitor your current crop of obsessions for appropriateness. I use this energy both for creative projects and when I’m working with a client’s chart. During the time I’m writing their report, it can feel like I’m having a real conversation with them even though it’s all in my head.

Do you have Neptune and Pluto aspects to personal planets (Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus or Mars) and how do you feel they affect your life? If you have either Neptune or Pluto aspecting your personal planets AND have one or the other of these outer planets hitting your chart by transit, it will create a similar situation.

By the way, Pluto is back conjoining my progressed Mars ONE MORE TIME! Can’t seem to escape him these days . . . 😀


Observations: Pluto Thoughts for the Day

© Stephanie Pui-Mun Law

With a delicious Full Moon in Scorpio tomorrow, I got to thinking about Pluto, Scorpio’s ruler, and how we end up manifesting some of his delightful issues in our natal charts.

One of the common themes for most of us with strong Pluto natal signatures is control, of others, ourselves, our environments, etc. When I meet people with what is politely called “control issues” these days, I immediately wonder what Pluto is doing in their natal charts. Often he is conjunct the Ascendant or in hard aspect to the Luminaries. Everyone has Pluto somewhere but he has to prominent to be noticeable. It takes an aspect to the personal planets or Angles to force us to deal with Pluto because as a transpersonal planet he is very “other” and difficult to relate to.

I suppose having sextiles and trines does dilute Pluto’s stamp on us to a degree. The reason I say this is because I have a Moon-Pluto sextile and still notice the need to be in control of my emotions. It takes careful monitoring of my feelings to recognize when I’m shoving them down rather than dealing with them. (Neptune conjunct my Moon is NO help at all . . .)

Both of my step-daughters have Pluto in Libra, one has Pluto in her first house trine her Mercury and the other has Pluto conjunct the Ascendant square her Cappy Moon. It is very clear who is in charge in their marriages, particularly in the second case. She chose a very nice man who pretty much lets her run the whole show. You would not believe what his mother is like (she has yet to acknowledge her daughter-in-law’s existence . . . seriously!) The other day both families were visiting and when they left, both women were driving which about says it all.

It has occurred to me what happened when the girls were living with their bi-polar mother during their teen years brought out the need for control as adults. We are only now finding out how rough it was for them and how many responsibilities they assumed. At the time the grandparents flat refused to acknowledge their daughter had mental health problems. It was a sad, desperate time for the girls and I’m amazed how well they are doing now. So many secrets (Pluto) keep from their father and I, preventing us from helping out.

By the way, their dad has a Moon-Pluto trine and a Mars-Pluto square. The man definitely is one of the control issue group but he tends to be harder on himself than others. Their mom doesn’t have any major Pluto aspects although I suspect she has a Moon-Neptune square.

By the way, attempting to restrict or control uncertainties in our lives is very human and nothing to be ashamed of . . . one more reason to be kind and forgiving of our selves. Anyone else relate to this?